mrchamp ([info]mrchamp) wrote,
@ 2008-03-28 03:59:00
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Representative Democracy vs. Pure Democracy
It has occurred to me on more than one occasion that our type of democracy is very flawed. We use representatives, delegates, superdelegates, and other elected people to go to a fancy gathering place to vote how we just voted. We do this for no other reason that I can think of than that of convenience. So many factors seem to be important in this primary process right now: state contests won, popular vote, pledged delegate count, superdelegate count, overall delegate count, momentum, and others. But which of these factors should actually determine who gets the nomination, presidency, or other sought after position?

The answer lies in the very concept our country was founded on: We the People. Not we the momentum. Not we the delegates OF the people. Not we the states. People, people, people. Now, I am certainly not suggesting that states should not have rights or anything to that effect. What I am saying that since the Constitution is the supreme law of the land, that people should always trump everything else. If we use representatives to vote for us, then each one has to represent exactly the same number of people for whom they are voting. It cannot be approximated, rounded up or down, or otherwise partially or wholly disregarded. It must be exact. And that number could look something like 2,983.558439321508408325 or be much longer. If people are misrepresented in any way, then their votes can effectively be lost. Does every vote truly count as many claim, or is it simply a cliche? The answer should be obvious. Both Michigan and Florida are on the verge of being completely discounted because of decisions made by a few elite officials. See how easily votes can be lost under this system? If this was a pure democracy, it would be as simple as us going to the voting booths and then tallying them up on a state by state basis, and then adding them all up. Least chance of lost votes, least chance of disenfranchisement, least chance of controversy.

Solution: abolish the electoral college and the delegate system altogether and create something else if we insist on staying as a representative democracy. Let's at least completely bind the representatives to doing the public's will. At the very least, we have to abolish the superdelegates. No one should be free to "vote their conscience" as a REPRESENTATIVE of the people. That is a complete contradiction. If you want to vote your conscience, then you can step down and just become a regular voting citizen like the rest of us, where your vote counts the same as mine.

My bottom line: My vote is my own; you don't get to take it and "chew on it" only to vote some other way. You represent accurately, or you don't represent. Period.


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[info]m0k3
2008-03-29 07:17 pm UTC (link)
I'm sure you already know this, but when the super-special-awesome founding fathers made our representative government and all that comes with that (electoral college), they did so with the knowledge that the common people were not able to elect people and decide issues by popular vote. Mainly because information was localized, traveled slowly, and many people just weren't well informed--so our handsomest, educated Representatives were sent to D.C. to do all that for the populace; the 'people's vote' was just a suggestion, and actually still is.
You are correct in that this system needs an overhaul. People aren't so ill-informed and uneducated as they were back then. We have mass media and public schools-- while both aren't perfect (mass media can be mass propaganda and our schools don't really help people make sound political judgments) they have upgraded enough from George Washington's day to be considered as a valid venue for voting on issues.
I know that many people, who only get their information from one source, be it CNN or FOX, probably shouldn't vote and it's a good thing there's representatives in that case, but those representatives are just as biased as particular media outlets or radio talk show hosts, so what is the difference? We have seen through most elections that the popular votes teeters around 50-50. I'm afraid if we had popular vote instead of representatives, that all issues would come down to some close margin of 50-50 and we'd have fights in the streets--whereas with representatives, we can just complain about it on CNN. I'm not advocating the current system, but I see problems with popular vote as well.

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[info]mrchamp
2008-04-05 01:20 am UTC (link)
To be clear, I never expressly advocated for one system or the other. This was a comparative analysis, nothing more. But as I said, if the representatives of our votes cannot represent them accurately, or if they feel that they somehow have the same freedom of conscience when they have been explicitly charged with representing the people, the current system should not and cannot be maintained. It would also be better if all states went to the polls on the same day, rather than dragging out the drama so that voters merely follow suit of some other previous primary. Question is, what is more important to us: selecting the best qualified candidate to move us in the right direction, or compromising our own views for the sake of unity, peace, or other reason for its own sake?

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[info]mrchamp
2008-04-05 01:25 am UTC (link)
I'd also add that with popular vote being a "suggestion," that is to me the underlying problem with the system in the first place. If the actual votes of the American people are nothing more than a suggestion in the grand scheme of things, then this is just a nation of hypocrisy. There's nothing democratic about undermining the popular vote to this extent. If this wasn't true, nobody would have thought twice about the validity of the 2000 election outcome. The system has to go, pronto.

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